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Poster: kochman Date: Feb 11, 2014 6:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10 most overrated bands... GD related.

OK now Tell... Let me be clear!
I don't really like anything they did before 71 nearly as much as I do 72-93...
I can pinpoint shows and reasons all day long on this topic.

I would venture that 72-4 has the biggest fan base, and the 80's didn't get popular because of 1969... People didn't care so much about that period then.

I get that you like the early stuff, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water here!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 12, 2014 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10 most overrated bands... GD related.

;)

Yeah, that's my "same old, same old", re: early is better biz...just stirring things up (I do think we all agree that over the 30 yrs, they lost a lot by 95; since then, Bob at least, even more, etc.).

But, the thing that I feel the guy got completely wrong is that it is a mis-use of "hype" (I really meant "resting on their laurels" or "age related degradation can't be avoided" or whatever explanation you want to provide)...

Thus, to say the DOORS were "all hype" or some such, I get, right? IE, the notion that there might not have been any substance to them (I actually disagree, but most are sympathetic to this position)...the idea that some band was cahsing in on a trend, or band wagon; more marketing (ahem) of some sort than real creativity?

That is misapplied to the DEAD; they did all those things early on, and have such a long history that it can't be hype, really--but one might say that (as I would) that in the 80s and 90s it was more about reputation than substance? It seems most folks feel that way about Further, though I get that PatK feels otherwise...

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Poster: kochman Date: Feb 12, 2014 4:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10 most overrated bands... GD related.

I think 90s dead was definitely more reputation than delivery, but there were those great moments that many kept going for... and getting less and less consistently.

I agree with you that the Doors were awesome, as well.